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Wed Sep-14-05 06:29 PM
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Edited by TruthIsAll on Tue Feb-10-09 11:11 PM

Response Optimizer analysis of State Exit Polls 

The following Exit Poll Optimizer analysis is based on individual state
exit poll response rates, recorded votes and polling percentages. Prior
optimizer analyses was based on 1250 precincts categorized according to
precinct partisanship.

The primary objective in this analysis was to determine if Kerry/Bush alpha
response ratios (K/B) for five state groupings (High Bush to High Kerry)
matched the prior precinct-based optimizer analysis in which alpha
decreased from High Bush to High Kerry precincts.

The optimizer produced similar results: K/B ratios for the state groups
decreased from High Bush to High Kerry.

What does it mean? There is NO uniform exit poll bias across partisanship
groupings, whether categorized by state or precinct. This effectively puts
the nail in the coffin of the rBr (Reluctant Bush Responder) hypothesis.
They are left with the pathetic claim that 8% of Gore voters forgot or lied
when asked who they voted for in 2000 and that 15% of Democrats voted for Bush.

EXIT POLL RESPONSE OPTIMIZER														
7/29/05 7:05 PM												
Given: 										
1- Bush 2-party vote (51.24%)	
2- State exit poll response	
3- State exit poll deviation 										
Determine:			
1- Kerry exit poll - aggregate and state	
2- K/B (alpha) - aggregate and state
3- Summary group totals, averages and medians
		
	2-PTY	TOTAL	2-PTY	TOTAL										
	PCT	COUNT	VOTE	PCT										
Kerry 	48.76%	48.28%	59,028	48.28%										
Bush	51.24%	50.73%	62,028	50.73%										
Total	100.0%	121,056	 122,267										
														
EXIT POLL														
Kerry 	50.51%	50.01%	61,141	50.01%										
Diff	-1.75%	-1.73%	-2,113	-1.73%										
Diff/K	-3.46%	-3.46%	-3.46%	-3.46%										
														
Bush	49.49%	49.00%	59,915	49.00%										
Diff	1.75%	1.73%	2,113	1.73%										
Diff/B	3.53%	3.53%	3.53%	3.53%										
														
PROBABILITY of 1.75% discrepancy between exit poll and vote:
  1 in 261,578,650,599
(based on 0.5% MoE for 73,607 respondents).										
														
PARTISAN ALPHA								
Lean Kerry	1.023		NJ-DC
Bush/Even	1.168		UT-OR											
														
WEIGHTED AVERAGE (AGGREGATE)														
Response:	53.28%	
K/B alpha:	1.120													
														
PERCENT OF EXIT POLL REFUSERS
Kerry 	46.86%
Bush	53.14%													
														
State	Votes	RESP.	K/B	K/50B	Kvote	Pct	Bvote	Pct	Kpoll	Pct	Bpoll	Pct	Dev	Calc
														
HIGH BUSH														
UT	905	59.6%	1.26	63.2	241	26.7%	664	73.3%	271	29.9%	634	70.1%	-30	-6.6%
WY	238	66.0%	1.05	52.3	71	29.7%	168	70.3%	76	32.1%	162	67.9%	-6	-4.8%
ID	590	63.2%	1.12	55.9	181	30.7%	409	69.3%	197	33.3%	394	66.7%	-16	-5.3%
NE	767	66.5%	1.12	56.0	254	33.2%	513	66.8%	280	36.5%	487	63.5%	-26	-6.8%
OK	1,464	53.2%	1.37	68.7	504	34.4%	960	65.6%	508	34.7%	955	65.3%	-4	-0.6%
														
BUSH														
ND	308	63.0%	1.05	52.7	111	36.1%	197	63.9%	103	33.6%	204	66.4%	8	5.0%
AK	302	53.2%	1.02	51.1	111	36.8%	191	63.2%	121	40.1%	181	59.9%	-10	-6.7%
AL	1,870	58.3%	1.28	63.8	694	37.1%	1,176	62.9%	768	41.1%	1,102	58.9%	-74	-8.0%
KS	1,171	64.5%	1.27	63.3	435	37.1%	736	62.9%	405	34.6%	766	65.4%	30	5.1%
TX	7,360	58.3%	1.40	69.9	2,833	38.5%	4,527	61.5%	2,711	36.8%	4,648	63.2%	122	3.3%

SD	382	42.7%	1.05	52.3	149	39.1%	233	60.9%	143	37.4%	239	62.6%	6	3.3%
MT	440	63.0%	1.03	51.7	174	39.5%	266	60.5%	173	39.3%	267	60.7%	1	0.4%
IN	2,448	38.6%	1.49	74.7	969	39.6%	1,479	60.4%	1,003	41.0%	1,445	59.0%	-34	-2.8%
KY	1,782	52.6%	1.26	63.2	713	40.0%	1,069	60.0%	726	40.8%	1,056	59.2%	-14	-1.5%
MS	1,130	49.6%	1.06	53.0	458	40.5%	673	59.5%	488	43.2%	642	56.8%	-31	-5.4%

SC	1,600	59.4%	1.03	51.5	662	41.4%	938	58.6%	732	45.8%	867	54.2%	-71	-8.8%
GA	3,280	63.9%	1.52	75.8	1,366	41.6%	1,914	58.4%	1,414	43.1%	1,866	56.9%	-48	-2.9%
LA	1,922	47.8%	1.11	55.3	820	42.7%	1,102	57.3%	855	44.5%	1,067	55.5%	-35	-3.7%
TN	2,421	66.7%	1.44	71.8	1,036	42.8%	1,384	57.2%	996	41.2%	1,425	58.8%	40	3.3%
WV	750	48.7%	1.00	50.0	327	43.5%	424	56.5%	339	45.2%	411	54.8%	-13	-3.3%

NC	3,487	52.6%	1.35	67.3	1,526	43.8%	1,961	56.2%	1,650	47.3%	1,837	52.7%	-124	-7.1%
AZ	1,998	57.3%	1.00	49.9	894	44.7%	1,104	55.3%	931	46.6%	1,067	53.4%	-37	-3.7%
AR	1,043	60.2%	0.97	48.5	470	45.1%	573	54.9%	490	46.9%	554	53.1%	-19	-3.7%
VA	3,172	56.4%	0.82	40.9	1,455	45.9%	1,717	54.1%	1,521	48.0%	1,651	52.0%	-66	-4.2%
MO	2,715	47.0%	0.97	48.6	1,259	46.4%	1,456	53.6%	1,289	47.5%	1,426	52.5%	-30	-2.2%
														
EVEN														
FL	7,548	49.0%	1.48	73.8	3,584	47.5%	3,965	52.5%	3,769	49.9%	3,779	50.1%	-185	-4.9%
CO	2,103	55.5%	0.84	41.9	1,002	47.6%	1,101	52.4%	1,032	49.1%	1,071	50.9%	-30	-2.9%
NV	816	49.1%	0.92	45.9	397	48.7%	419	51.3%	413	50.7%	403	49.3%	-16	-4.0%
OH	5,599	44.1%	1.51	75.7	2,740	48.9%	2,859	51.1%	2,915	52.1%	2,684	47.9%	-175	-6.2%
NM	748	56.9%	0.92	45.8	371	49.6%	377	50.4%	384	51.3%	364	48.7%	-13	-3.5%

IA	1,494	52.6%	0.83	41.5	742	49.7%	752	50.3%	757	50.7%	737	49.3%	-15	-2.0%
WI	2,968	55.3%	0.82	41.0	1,490	50.2%	1,478	49.8%	1,490	50.2%	1,477	49.8%	-1	0.0%
NH	672	44.0%	0.88	43.8	341	50.7%	331	49.3%	373	55.5%	299	44.5%	-32	-9.6%
PA	5,732	46.8%	1.00	50.2	2,938	51.3%	2,794	48.7%	3,119	54.4%	2,613	45.6%	-181	-6.3%
MI	4,793	50.2%	0.84	41.8	2,479	51.7%	2,314	48.3%	2,519	52.6%	2,274	47.4%	-40	-1.7%

MN	2,792	45.3%	0.82	41.2	1,445	51.8%	1,347	48.2%	1,525	54.6%	1,267	45.4%	-80	-5.7%
OR	1,810	53.0%	0.81	40.6	943	52.1%	867	47.9%	927	51.2%	883	48.8%	16	1.8%
														
KERRY														
NJ	3,581	59.7%	0.83	41.6	1,911	53.4%	1,670	46.6%	2,010	56.1%	1,571	43.9%	-99	-5.5%
WA	2,815	53.8%	0.82	41.2	1,510	53.6%	1,305	46.4%	1,550	55.1%	1,265	44.9%	-40	-2.8%
DE	372	57.5%	0.92	46.0	200	53.8%	172	46.2%	217	58.4%	155	41.6%	-17	-9.2%
HI	426	53.4%	0.94	47.1	232	54.4%	194	45.6%	227	53.3%	199	46.7%	5	2.2%
ME	727	61.3%	0.87	43.7	397	54.6%	330	45.4%	399	54.8%	328	45.2%	-2	-0.5%

CA	12,255	50.5%	1.33	66.7	6,745	55.0%	5,510	45.0%	6,830	55.7%	5,425	44.3%	-85	-1.4%
IL	5,239	51.9%	0.85	42.5	2,892	55.2%	2,347	44.8%	2,993	57.1%	2,246	42.9%	-101	-3.9%
CT	1,551	51.0%	0.81	40.7	857	55.3%	694	44.7%	907	58.5%	644	41.5%	-50	-6.4%
MD	2,359	59.4%	0.82	41.0	1,334	56.6%	1,025	43.4%	1,346	57.0%	1,014	43.0%	-11	-0.9%
														
HIGH KERRY														
NY	7,277	57.9%	0.97	48.6	4,314	59.3%	2,963	40.7%	4,655	64.0%	2,622	36.0%	-340	-9.4%
VT	305	53.1%	0.89	44.7	184	60.3%	121	39.7%	201	65.7%	105	34.3%	-16	-10.8%
RI	429	44.2%	0.86	42.8	260	60.6%	169	39.4%	275	64.2%	153	35.8%	-16	-7.3%
MA	2,875	56.5%	0.96	48.1	1,804	62.7%	1,071	37.3%	1,911	66.5%	964	33.5%	-107	-7.4%
DC	224	53.5%	0.98	48.8	203	90.5%	21	9.5%	205	91.6%	19	8.4%	-2	-2.2%
														
Total	121056	53.28%	1.12	52.52	59028	48.76%	62028	51.24%	61141	50.51%	59915	49.49%	-2113	-3.5%
Wtd														
														
					RECORDED VOTE				EXIT POLL RESPONDERS					
SUMMARY														
Total/Avg

State	Votes	RESP.	K/B	K/50B	Kvote	Pct	Bvote	Pct	Kpoll	Pct	Bpoll	Pct	Dev	Calc

HBUSH	3,965	61.7%	1.18	59.2	1,251	30.9%	2,713	69.1%	1,333	33.3%	2,632	66.7%	-81	-4.80%
BUSH	39,582	55.2%	1.16	57.8	16,461	41.1%	23,121	58.9%	16,860	42.2%	22,722	57.8%	-400	-2.18%
EVEN	37,073	50.2%	0.97	48.6	18,471	50.0%	18,603	50.0%	19,222	51.9%	17,852	48.1%	-751	-3.75%
KERRY	29,326	55.4%	0.91	45.6	16,080	54.7%	13,246	45.3%	16,479	56.2%	12,847	43.8%	-399	-3.16%
HKERRY	11,110	53.0%	0.93	46.6	6,765	66.7%	4,345	33.3%	7,247	70.4%	3,863	29.6%	-482	-7.42%
														
Median														
HBUSH	767	63.2%	1.12	56.0	241	30.7%	513	69.3%	271	33.3%	487	66.7%	-16	-5.31%
BUSH	1,826	56.9%	1.06	52.9	703	40.9%	1,086	59.1%	750	42.1%	1,061	57.9%	-25	-3.14%
EVEN	2,447	49.7%	0.86	42.9	1,223	49.9%	1,224	50.1%	1,261	51.3%	1,169	48.7%	-31	-3.72%
KERRY	2,359	53.8%	0.85	42.5	1,334	54.6%	1,025	45.4%	1,346	56.1%	1,014	43.9%	-40	-2.84%
HKERRY	429	53.5%	0.96	48.1	260	60.6%	169	39.4%	275	65.7%	153	34.3%	-16	-7.44%
						
 

http://progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?a...



These FACTS are never discussed in the media.
- election fraud
- undecided voters break for the challenger, especially if the incumbent is unpopular. Bush was at 48%.
- Many newly registered voters are not included in LV (likely voter) polls.
- Since 1988, Democrats have won 60-70% of new voters. In 2008, Obama had 71%+.
- MILLIONS of mostly (70-80%) Democratic votes are uncounted in every election
- The 2004/2006/2008 Final National Exit Polls indicated there were millions of returning phantom Bush voters from the prior election (more than were alive).
- The Final National and State exit polls are always FORCED TO MATCH the recorded vote.
- By definition, the RECORDED VOTE never reflects the TRUE VOTE since millions of votes are UNCOUNTED in EVERY election.
- Uncounted votes alone provide overwhelming evidence that elections were stolen in 1968, 1988, 2000 and 2004.
- 1968: 6 million net uncounted votes.
Nixon won the recorded vote by 500,000.
- 1988: 10.6 million net uncounted votes. Bush won the recorded vote by 7m.
- 2000: 5.4 million net uncounted votes. Gore won the recorded vote by 540,000.
- 2004: Nearly 4 million uncounted votes.
Bush won the recorded vote by 3.0 million.
Kerry won the True Vote by 10m.
Approximately 5 million were switched from Kerry to Bush on UNVERIFIABLE voting machines.

- 2006 midterms: Democrats won by more than double the recorded 52-46%% margin.
10-20 House seats were stolen.

- 2008: Obama won by more than double his recorded 9.5m margin.

1988-2008: the average Democratic TRUE VOTE margin was reduced from 10% to a 4% RECORDED MARGIN by Election Fraud.

VOTER FRAUD was virtually non-existent.

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14 replies to this thread:
Response Optimizer analysis of State Exit Polls refutes rBr , TruthIsAll, Wed Sep-14-05 06:29 PM
#1: RE: Response Optimizer analysis of State Exit Polls refutes rBr, TruthIsAll, Sep 13th 2005
#6: RE: Response Optimizer analysis of State Exit Polls refutes rBr, Leftword, Sep 14th 2005
#9: Yes, one should be aware of the facts before posting., TruthIsAll, Sep 14th 2005
#7: I'm so glad and relieved to see you posting here., Username, Sep 14th 2005
#2: You have no idea how perfect this looks!, autorank, Sep 13th 2005
#3: I hope you will, Eloriel, Sep 13th 2005
#4: RE: Response Optimizer analysis of State Exit Polls refutes rBr, anaxarchos, Sep 13th 2005
#5: Really great to see you posting again, particularly here., GettysburgII, Sep 13th 2005
#12: RE: Response Optimizer analysis of State Exit Polls refutes rBr, bleever, Sep 14th 2005
#13: RE: Response Optimizer analysis of State Exit Polls refutes rBr, davidgmills, Sep 15th 2005
#14: RE: Response Optimizer analysis of State Exit Polls refutes rBr, FogerRox, Sep 16th 2005
#15: Very roxy of you, Foger., TruthIsAll, Sep 16th 2005
#17: Well, you are allowed to post, you know., autorank, Sep 16th 2005
#16: Check out the graph in your new thread., TruthIsAll, Sep 16th 2005

Reply #1: RE: Response Optimizer analysis of State Exit Polls refutes rBr
TruthIsAll Moderator Click to send a private message to this memberClick to view this member's profileClick to view posts by this memberClick to add this member to your buddy list
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Tue Sep-13-05 02:56 PM
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Edited by TruthIsAll on Tue Sep-13-05 03:21 PM

















http://progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?a...



These FACTS are never discussed in the media.
- election fraud
- undecided voters break for the challenger, especially if the incumbent is unpopular. Bush was at 48%.
- Many newly registered voters are not included in LV (likely voter) polls.
- Since 1988, Democrats have won 60-70% of new voters. In 2008, Obama had 71%+.
- MILLIONS of mostly (70-80%) Democratic votes are uncounted in every election
- The 2004/2006/2008 Final National Exit Polls indicated there were millions of returning phantom Bush voters from the prior election (more than were alive).
- The Final National and State exit polls are always FORCED TO MATCH the recorded vote.
- By definition, the RECORDED VOTE never reflects the TRUE VOTE since millions of votes are UNCOUNTED in EVERY election.
- Uncounted votes alone provide overwhelming evidence that elections were stolen in 1968, 1988, 2000 and 2004.
- 1968: 6 million net uncounted votes.
Nixon won the recorded vote by 500,000.
- 1988: 10.6 million net uncounted votes. Bush won the recorded vote by 7m.
- 2000: 5.4 million net uncounted votes. Gore won the recorded vote by 540,000.
- 2004: Nearly 4 million uncounted votes.
Bush won the recorded vote by 3.0 million.
Kerry won the True Vote by 10m.
Approximately 5 million were switched from Kerry to Bush on UNVERIFIABLE voting machines.

- 2006 midterms: Democrats won by more than double the recorded 52-46%% margin.
10-20 House seats were stolen.

- 2008: Obama won by more than double his recorded 9.5m margin.

1988-2008: the average Democratic TRUE VOTE margin was reduced from 10% to a 4% RECORDED MARGIN by Election Fraud.

VOTER FRAUD was virtually non-existent.

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Wed Sep-14-05 04:06 AM
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There is something missing in all this. Where does the admission that the early exit polling way over-sampled democrats figure in? There is also the fact that at no time throughout the presidential race did Senator Kerry lead Bush in the polls.
I believe more research needs to be done, but it must use all the facts.

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Reply #9: Yes, one should be aware of the facts before posting.
TruthIsAll Moderator Click to send a private message to this memberClick to view this member's profileClick to view posts by this memberClick to add this member to your buddy list
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Wed Sep-14-05 09:00 AM
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Edited by TruthIsAll on Wed Sep-14-05 09:08 AM


I suggest you link to the electionmodel site.
There you will see that Kerry led in 11 of 18 national polls at the very end.
You are right. You need to know the facts.


http://progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?a...



These FACTS are never discussed in the media.
- election fraud
- undecided voters break for the challenger, especially if the incumbent is unpopular. Bush was at 48%.
- Many newly registered voters are not included in LV (likely voter) polls.
- Since 1988, Democrats have won 60-70% of new voters. In 2008, Obama had 71%+.
- MILLIONS of mostly (70-80%) Democratic votes are uncounted in every election
- The 2004/2006/2008 Final National Exit Polls indicated there were millions of returning phantom Bush voters from the prior election (more than were alive).
- The Final National and State exit polls are always FORCED TO MATCH the recorded vote.
- By definition, the RECORDED VOTE never reflects the TRUE VOTE since millions of votes are UNCOUNTED in EVERY election.
- Uncounted votes alone provide overwhelming evidence that elections were stolen in 1968, 1988, 2000 and 2004.
- 1968: 6 million net uncounted votes.
Nixon won the recorded vote by 500,000.
- 1988: 10.6 million net uncounted votes. Bush won the recorded vote by 7m.
- 2000: 5.4 million net uncounted votes. Gore won the recorded vote by 540,000.
- 2004: Nearly 4 million uncounted votes.
Bush won the recorded vote by 3.0 million.
Kerry won the True Vote by 10m.
Approximately 5 million were switched from Kerry to Bush on UNVERIFIABLE voting machines.

- 2006 midterms: Democrats won by more than double the recorded 52-46%% margin.
10-20 House seats were stolen.

- 2008: Obama won by more than double his recorded 9.5m margin.

1988-2008: the average Democratic TRUE VOTE margin was reduced from 10% to a 4% RECORDED MARGIN by Election Fraud.

VOTER FRAUD was virtually non-existent.

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Reply #7: I'm so glad and relieved to see you posting here.
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All I can say is, does your dog really have stinky breath? I know how bad that can be.

one if by land, two if by sea..

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Reply #2: You have no idea how perfect this looks!
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...and I have not even digested it.  Time for that in a bit, just had to comment
on the aesthetics of it all.

There is a Dog goD, whatever...:)

Obrador for President Site

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Reply #3: I hope you will
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soon have a suitable (and appropriately appreciative) audience here for your work. (I am CERTAIN we will, actually).

In the meantime:

Do not submit. It is extremely critical that repression be met head on
and that it be resisted with every fiber in our being.
There is absolutely no compromise that can be made with it.
As a matter of fact, compromise is what oppression feeds on.
Without compromise it would be defeated.
-- Harry Belafonte

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Edited by anaxarchos on Tue Sep-13-05 07:21 PM

What about "false memory"? And the exit polls weren't designed to be
used for anything... and the MOE is wrong (Larry and Curley too)... and you
lack the acumen to do math and, and.... you're really a freeper hiding in Excel
and your dog's breath stinks...


;) 

Just trying to make you feel at home...

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Reply #5: Really great to see you posting again, particularly here.
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Tue Sep-13-05 09:48 PM
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That makes at least one hero I have here.

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Reply #12: RE: Response Optimizer analysis of State Exit Polls refutes rBr
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This is incredible work, incredibly thorough.

May it reach many people, as the truth about the theft of the 2004 presidential
election slowly but surely becomes part of the historical record of the U.S.A.


I salute you, sir.

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Reply #13: RE: Response Optimizer analysis of State Exit Polls refutes rBr
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You know TIA, as I look (seriously) at the state exit poll response vs.
discrepancy, I find no correlation between high response rate and accuracy.

The presumption would be the higher the response rate, the greater the accuracy
and less deviation.  But I see no correlation.  Is there one or am I missing
something?

TN for example, (my state) had the highest response rate and IN the lowest but
the descrepancies were actually less in IN.

How many times did we hear from Lizzie and others for example that the response
rates were too low to be accurate?  What is too low?  If 70% is no more accurate
than 30 do you need 90%?

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Reply #14: RE: Response Optimizer analysis of State Exit Polls refutes rBr
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Fri Sep-16-05 03:34 PM
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Just droppin in to say hi to TIA

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Reply #15: Very roxy of you, Foger.
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Fri Sep-16-05 04:50 PM
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"Incumbent polling in May is the best indicator of the November
vote...".

Truer words were never spoken.

http://progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?a...



These FACTS are never discussed in the media.
- election fraud
- undecided voters break for the challenger, especially if the incumbent is unpopular. Bush was at 48%.
- Many newly registered voters are not included in LV (likely voter) polls.
- Since 1988, Democrats have won 60-70% of new voters. In 2008, Obama had 71%+.
- MILLIONS of mostly (70-80%) Democratic votes are uncounted in every election
- The 2004/2006/2008 Final National Exit Polls indicated there were millions of returning phantom Bush voters from the prior election (more than were alive).
- The Final National and State exit polls are always FORCED TO MATCH the recorded vote.
- By definition, the RECORDED VOTE never reflects the TRUE VOTE since millions of votes are UNCOUNTED in EVERY election.
- Uncounted votes alone provide overwhelming evidence that elections were stolen in 1968, 1988, 2000 and 2004.
- 1968: 6 million net uncounted votes.
Nixon won the recorded vote by 500,000.
- 1988: 10.6 million net uncounted votes. Bush won the recorded vote by 7m.
- 2000: 5.4 million net uncounted votes. Gore won the recorded vote by 540,000.
- 2004: Nearly 4 million uncounted votes.
Bush won the recorded vote by 3.0 million.
Kerry won the True Vote by 10m.
Approximately 5 million were switched from Kerry to Bush on UNVERIFIABLE voting machines.

- 2006 midterms: Democrats won by more than double the recorded 52-46%% margin.
10-20 House seats were stolen.

- 2008: Obama won by more than double his recorded 9.5m margin.

1988-2008: the average Democratic TRUE VOTE margin was reduced from 10% to a 4% RECORDED MARGIN by Election Fraud.

VOTER FRAUD was virtually non-existent.

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Reply #17: Well, you are allowed to post, you know.
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Fri Sep-16-05 11:19 PM
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Edited by autorank on Fri Sep-16-05 11:20 PM

:yourock: you know post, like drop us a line

Nice to see you.

Obrador for President Site

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Reply #16: Check out the graph in your new thread.
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Fri Sep-16-05 04:53 PM
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Edited by TruthIsAll on Tue Feb-10-09 11:23 PM

I see no apparent correlation.

http://www.progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.p...

http://progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?a...



These FACTS are never discussed in the media.
- election fraud
- undecided voters break for the challenger, especially if the incumbent is unpopular. Bush was at 48%.
- Many newly registered voters are not included in LV (likely voter) polls.
- Since 1988, Democrats have won 60-70% of new voters. In 2008, Obama had 71%+.
- MILLIONS of mostly (70-80%) Democratic votes are uncounted in every election
- The 2004/2006/2008 Final National Exit Polls indicated there were millions of returning phantom Bush voters from the prior election (more than were alive).
- The Final National and State exit polls are always FORCED TO MATCH the recorded vote.
- By definition, the RECORDED VOTE never reflects the TRUE VOTE since millions of votes are UNCOUNTED in EVERY election.
- Uncounted votes alone provide overwhelming evidence that elections were stolen in 1968, 1988, 2000 and 2004.
- 1968: 6 million net uncounted votes.
Nixon won the recorded vote by 500,000.
- 1988: 10.6 million net uncounted votes. Bush won the recorded vote by 7m.
- 2000: 5.4 million net uncounted votes. Gore won the recorded vote by 540,000.
- 2004: Nearly 4 million uncounted votes.
Bush won the recorded vote by 3.0 million.
Kerry won the True Vote by 10m.
Approximately 5 million were switched from Kerry to Bush on UNVERIFIABLE voting machines.

- 2006 midterms: Democrats won by more than double the recorded 52-46%% margin.
10-20 House seats were stolen.

- 2008: Obama won by more than double his recorded 9.5m margin.

1988-2008: the average Democratic TRUE VOTE margin was reduced from 10% to a 4% RECORDED MARGIN by Election Fraud.

VOTER FRAUD was virtually non-existent.

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