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THE ULTIMATE CLINCHER: BUSH NEEDED 1 OF 5 GORE VOTERS!!
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Original Post: THE ULTIMATE CLINCHER: BUSH NEEDED 1 OF 5 GORE VOTERS!!
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Thu Feb-09-06 03:26 PM
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Edited by TruthIsAll on Fri Feb-10-06 08:12 PM

Considering that Gore won in 2000 by over 540,000 votes, and that
1) Kerry won a majority of new voters (57-41%) and
2) a majority of Nader voters (71-21%) and 
3) less than 49.2mm Gore and 48.7mm Bush voters turned out in 2004, 
then the discussion should end right here because... 

Assuming a 95% turnout of Gore and Bush voters, Bush needed 
19.5% OF GORE VOTERS TO WIN BY 3 MILLION VOTES. 
THE NATIONAL EXIT POLL SAID HE GOT 8%.

ARE WE EXPECTED TO BELIEVE THAT ALMOST ONE OUT OF FIVE GORE 
VOTERS DECIDED TO FORGIVE BUSH FOR STEALING ELECTION 2000?
OK, FORGIVE. 
BUT VOTE FOR HIM?

Quere mas?
___________________________________________________________


If we assume a 2% MoE, the probability is LESS THAN 
ONE  IN 1.5 QUADRILLION THAT BUSH WOULD GET 16% OF GORE VOTERS!

PROB = 1- NORMDIST(0.16,0..08,0.01,TRUE)
or 1 in 1,501,199,875,790,170

And that's assuming 16% of Gore voters switching to Bush in 2004.
I tried to compute the probability that 19% of Gore voters would switch,
but...THE NORMDIST FUNCTION COULD NOT PERFORM THE CALCULATION. 
IT GENERATED A DIVISION BY ZERO ERROR.
THE PROBABILITY IS AT THE VANISHING POINT!

Quere mas?
_____________________________________________________________


12:22am (13047 respondents)
Assume 95% turnout of Gore and Bush voters.

WHAT BUSH NEEDED TO GET HIS 3 MILLION VOTE MARGIN...
Set the Gore voter share for Bush to 19.5%
			
VOTED IN 2000	
	                   Percentage 	Votes in Millions		
	Weight	Votes	Kerry	Bush	Other	Kerry	Bush	Other
No	21.59%	26.37	57%	41%	2%	15.0	10.8	0.5
Gore	38.27%	46.75	80%	19.5%	0.5%	37.4	9.1	0.2
Bush	37.86%	46.26	10%	90%	0%	4.6	41.6	0.0
Nader	 2.28%	 2.79	71%	21%	8%	2.0	0.6	0.2
								
Total	100%	122.2	48.3%	50.9%	0.8%	59.0	62.1	1.0

		Bush margin: 3.1mm		

Quere mas?
____________________________________________________________					

WHAT REALLY HAPPENED...
Based on the exit poll vote shares,
Kerry wins by over 7 MILLION VOTES!			

VOTED IN 2000	
	                   Percentage 	Votes in Millions		
	Weight	Votes	Kerry	Bush	Other	Kerry	Bush	Other
No	21.59%	26.37	57%	41%	2%	15.0	10.8	0.5
Gore	38.27%	46.75	91%	8%	1%	42.5	 3.7	0.5
Bush	37.86%	46.26	10%	90%	0%	4.6	41.6	0.0
Nader	 2.28%	 2.79	71%	21%	8%	2.0	 0.6	0.2
								
Total	  100%	122.2	52.4%	46.6%	1.0%	64.2	56.8	1.2
		Kerry margin: 7.4mm		

____________________________________________________________					
Quere mas?

Now let's determine the percentage of New voters that Bush needed in
order to win by 3 million, assuming Gore and Bush voter shares are held 
constant to the exit poll results.

IF 95% OF SELECTION 2000 VOTERS TURNED OUT IN 2004 THEN: 
1) THERE MUST HAVE BEEN 26.4 MILLION NEW VOTERS IN 2004!
2) BUSH 2000 VOTER TURNOUT WAS 46.26 MILLION (95% OF 48.7).

THEREFORE...
3) BUSH NEEDED 15.7MM (62-46.26) OR 59.4% OF THE 26.4MM NEW VOTERS!

BUT...ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL EXIT POLL HE ONLY GOT 41%.
THAT'S AN 18% DISCREPANCY (9X THE MARGIN OF ERROR).

WHERE DID BUSH GET THESE NEW 15.7 MILLION VOTERS FROM? 
LET'S GET EFFIN' REAL, FOR CRISSAKES!

END.
FINIS.
Q.E.D.

Quere mas?

__________________________________________________________

http://progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?a...



These FACTS are never discussed in the media.
- election fraud
- undecided voters break for the challenger, especially if the incumbent is unpopular. Bush was at 48%.
- Many newly registered voters are not included in LV (likely voter) polls.
- Since 1988, Democrats have won 60-70% of new voters. In 2008, Obama had 71%+.
- MILLIONS of mostly (70-80%) Democratic votes are uncounted in every election
- The 2004/2006/2008 Final National Exit Polls indicated there were millions of returning phantom Bush voters from the prior election (more than were alive).
- The Final National and State exit polls are always FORCED TO MATCH the recorded vote.
- By definition, the RECORDED VOTE never reflects the TRUE VOTE since millions of votes are UNCOUNTED in EVERY election.
- Uncounted votes alone provide overwhelming evidence that elections were stolen in 1968, 1988, 2000 and 2004.
- 1968: 6 million net uncounted votes.
Nixon won the recorded vote by 500,000.
- 1988: 10.6 million net uncounted votes. Bush won the recorded vote by 7m.
- 2000: 5.4 million net uncounted votes. Gore won the recorded vote by 540,000.
- 2004: Nearly 4 million uncounted votes.
Bush won the recorded vote by 3.0 million.
Kerry won the True Vote by 10m.
Approximately 5 million were switched from Kerry to Bush on UNVERIFIABLE voting machines.

- 2006 midterms: Democrats won by more than double the recorded 52-46%% margin.
10-20 House seats were stolen.

- 2008: Obama won by more than double his recorded 9.5m margin.

1988-2008: the average Democratic TRUE VOTE margin was reduced from 10% to a 4% RECORDED MARGIN by Election Fraud.

VOTER FRAUD was virtually non-existent.

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6 replies to this thread:
THE ULTIMATE CLINCHER: BUSH NEEDED 1 OF 5 GORE VOTERS!! , TruthIsAll, Thu Feb-09-06 03:26 PM
#1: There were crimes all along and in every direction., Virgil, Feb 09th 2006
#2: The closed form is unremarkable..., wli, Feb 09th 2006
#3: 1 in 3,600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 UNREMARKABLE?, TruthIsAll, Feb 09th 2006
#4: well, to someone who looks at numbers as objects of interest, wli, Feb 09th 2006
#5: Paul Erdos. The Man Who Loved Only Numbers., TruthIsAll, Feb 09th 2006
#6: An "unremarkable" closed form solution by wli. Right., TruthIsAll, Jul 16th 2006

Reply #1: There were crimes all along and in every direction.
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Thu Feb-09-06 03:58 PM
In response to Original Post

I was for removing the entire Congress from office for spending $4 billion and
not demanding that paper trails that had always been there were required to be
there. Part of their reform was the deliberate removal of paper trails. They
are not that stupid to not understand the demand of paper trails. It is
corruption that gave us the vote manipulation machines.

Of course, history will ask how we let a war criminal stay in office to run?
The entire system is corrupted for the purposes of Wealthy Rule.

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Reply #2: The closed form is unremarkable...
wli Donor2 Click to send a private message to this memberClick to view this member's profileClick to view posts by this memberClick to add this member to your buddy list
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Thu Feb-09-06 04:16 PM
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(1-erf(9))√π/200

erf(9) is very close to 1; the expression as a whole is 3.666*10-37

sora kudou nari

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Reply #3: 1 in 3,600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 UNREMARKABLE?
TruthIsAll Moderator Click to send a private message to this memberClick to view this member's profileClick to view posts by this memberClick to add this member to your buddy list
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Thu Feb-09-06 05:26 PM
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What is remarkable is how Bush beat those odds...

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These FACTS are never discussed in the media.
- election fraud
- undecided voters break for the challenger, especially if the incumbent is unpopular. Bush was at 48%.
- Many newly registered voters are not included in LV (likely voter) polls.
- Since 1988, Democrats have won 60-70% of new voters. In 2008, Obama had 71%+.
- MILLIONS of mostly (70-80%) Democratic votes are uncounted in every election
- The 2004/2006/2008 Final National Exit Polls indicated there were millions of returning phantom Bush voters from the prior election (more than were alive).
- The Final National and State exit polls are always FORCED TO MATCH the recorded vote.
- By definition, the RECORDED VOTE never reflects the TRUE VOTE since millions of votes are UNCOUNTED in EVERY election.
- Uncounted votes alone provide overwhelming evidence that elections were stolen in 1968, 1988, 2000 and 2004.
- 1968: 6 million net uncounted votes.
Nixon won the recorded vote by 500,000.
- 1988: 10.6 million net uncounted votes. Bush won the recorded vote by 7m.
- 2000: 5.4 million net uncounted votes. Gore won the recorded vote by 540,000.
- 2004: Nearly 4 million uncounted votes.
Bush won the recorded vote by 3.0 million.
Kerry won the True Vote by 10m.
Approximately 5 million were switched from Kerry to Bush on UNVERIFIABLE voting machines.

- 2006 midterms: Democrats won by more than double the recorded 52-46%% margin.
10-20 House seats were stolen.

- 2008: Obama won by more than double his recorded 9.5m margin.

1988-2008: the average Democratic TRUE VOTE margin was reduced from 10% to a 4% RECORDED MARGIN by Election Fraud.

VOTER FRAUD was virtually non-existent.

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Reply #4: well, to someone who looks at numbers as objects of interest
wli Donor2 Click to send a private message to this memberClick to view this member's profileClick to view posts by this memberClick to add this member to your buddy list
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Thu Feb-09-06 06:53 PM
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Edited by wli on Thu Feb-09-06 06:53 PM

(1+erf(9))/2 is a lot less interesting than, say,
<>.

It doesn't seem very small, either, compared to e.g. 2-22... repeated large numbers of times (e.g. f(0)=1, f(n+1)=2f(n), then consider f(216)-1 or similar; you can even go so far as fk+1(n+1)=fk(fk+1(n)), f0(n+1)=2f0(n), fk(0)=1 for all k, then f16(16)-1 is "small", or do similar tricks with gk+1(n+1) = ffk(n)(gk(n)), and so on and so forth).

sora kudou nari

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Reply #5: Paul Erdos. The Man Who Loved Only Numbers.
TruthIsAll Moderator Click to send a private message to this memberClick to view this member's profileClick to view posts by this memberClick to add this member to your buddy list
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Thu Feb-09-06 07:17 PM
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Fascinating.

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These FACTS are never discussed in the media.
- election fraud
- undecided voters break for the challenger, especially if the incumbent is unpopular. Bush was at 48%.
- Many newly registered voters are not included in LV (likely voter) polls.
- Since 1988, Democrats have won 60-70% of new voters. In 2008, Obama had 71%+.
- MILLIONS of mostly (70-80%) Democratic votes are uncounted in every election
- The 2004/2006/2008 Final National Exit Polls indicated there were millions of returning phantom Bush voters from the prior election (more than were alive).
- The Final National and State exit polls are always FORCED TO MATCH the recorded vote.
- By definition, the RECORDED VOTE never reflects the TRUE VOTE since millions of votes are UNCOUNTED in EVERY election.
- Uncounted votes alone provide overwhelming evidence that elections were stolen in 1968, 1988, 2000 and 2004.
- 1968: 6 million net uncounted votes.
Nixon won the recorded vote by 500,000.
- 1988: 10.6 million net uncounted votes. Bush won the recorded vote by 7m.
- 2000: 5.4 million net uncounted votes. Gore won the recorded vote by 540,000.
- 2004: Nearly 4 million uncounted votes.
Bush won the recorded vote by 3.0 million.
Kerry won the True Vote by 10m.
Approximately 5 million were switched from Kerry to Bush on UNVERIFIABLE voting machines.

- 2006 midterms: Democrats won by more than double the recorded 52-46%% margin.
10-20 House seats were stolen.

- 2008: Obama won by more than double his recorded 9.5m margin.

1988-2008: the average Democratic TRUE VOTE margin was reduced from 10% to a 4% RECORDED MARGIN by Election Fraud.

VOTER FRAUD was virtually non-existent.

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Reply #6: An "unremarkable" closed form solution by wli. Right.
TruthIsAll Moderator Click to send a private message to this memberClick to view this member's profileClick to view posts by this memberClick to add this member to your buddy list
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Sun Jul-16-06 04:12 PM
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I wonder if the Mystery Pollster could have figured that out?

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These FACTS are never discussed in the media.
- election fraud
- undecided voters break for the challenger, especially if the incumbent is unpopular. Bush was at 48%.
- Many newly registered voters are not included in LV (likely voter) polls.
- Since 1988, Democrats have won 60-70% of new voters. In 2008, Obama had 71%+.
- MILLIONS of mostly (70-80%) Democratic votes are uncounted in every election
- The 2004/2006/2008 Final National Exit Polls indicated there were millions of returning phantom Bush voters from the prior election (more than were alive).
- The Final National and State exit polls are always FORCED TO MATCH the recorded vote.
- By definition, the RECORDED VOTE never reflects the TRUE VOTE since millions of votes are UNCOUNTED in EVERY election.
- Uncounted votes alone provide overwhelming evidence that elections were stolen in 1968, 1988, 2000 and 2004.
- 1968: 6 million net uncounted votes.
Nixon won the recorded vote by 500,000.
- 1988: 10.6 million net uncounted votes. Bush won the recorded vote by 7m.
- 2000: 5.4 million net uncounted votes. Gore won the recorded vote by 540,000.
- 2004: Nearly 4 million uncounted votes.
Bush won the recorded vote by 3.0 million.
Kerry won the True Vote by 10m.
Approximately 5 million were switched from Kerry to Bush on UNVERIFIABLE voting machines.

- 2006 midterms: Democrats won by more than double the recorded 52-46%% margin.
10-20 House seats were stolen.

- 2008: Obama won by more than double his recorded 9.5m margin.

1988-2008: the average Democratic TRUE VOTE margin was reduced from 10% to a 4% RECORDED MARGIN by Election Fraud.

VOTER FRAUD was virtually non-existent.

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