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Original Post: Cut to the chase: This question will put an end to the exit poll debate...
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Fri Nov-18-05 03:11 PM
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Edited by TruthIsAll on Thu Nov-24-05 06:43 PM

Do you believe the election was stolen?

If the answer is YES, then you must also agree that the 12:22am State exit
polls and the 12:22am National Exit Poll timeline (13047 respondents) were
close to the truth. Kerry won these polls by 51-48%.

OTOH, if the answer is NO, then you must agree that the Final Exit Poll
(1:25pm, Nov.3), which was matched to the recorded vote, was close to the
truth- and that the pre-election state and national,  post-election state and
National Exit polls (12:22am) were wrong.

Many of these so-called "democratic" naysayers claim that Kerry may
indeed have won the electoral vote, but that the exit polls were wrong and
Kerry lost the popular vote. After all, 3 million votes are too much to make
up. What BS logic. Did these guys ever develop a model? They claim that the
exit poll/vote discrepancies were due to biased exit polls yet never offer
proof, just hypotheticals - reluctant Bush responder, faulty Gore voter recall,
etc. 

They all concede that voter disenfranchisement and innocent ballot spoilage may
have cost Kerry the election, but are vociferous in their seasoned judgment that
Republican-owned voting machines and corrupt election officials had absolutely
nothing to do with it. They say this despite massive evidence of DRE vote
switching from Kerry to Bush. That's the essence of their argument. The clear
intent is to inoculate the exit pollsters, voting machine manufacturers,
election officials, media, DLC and DNC from all evidence of collaboration in
the fraud.

But it's really very simple and comes down to this:
If you believe Kerry won, then you must believe the polls.
If you believe Bush won, then you must disbelieve the polls.

That's it.





 


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These FACTS are never discussed in the media.
- election fraud
- undecided voters break for the challenger, especially if the incumbent is unpopular. Bush was at 48%.
- Many newly registered voters are not included in LV (likely voter) polls.
- Since 1988, Democrats have won 60-70% of new voters. In 2008, Obama had 71%+.
- MILLIONS of mostly (70-80%) Democratic votes are uncounted in every election
- The 2004/2006/2008 Final National Exit Polls indicated there were millions of returning phantom Bush voters from the prior election (more than were alive).
- The Final National and State exit polls are always FORCED TO MATCH the recorded vote.
- By definition, the RECORDED VOTE never reflects the TRUE VOTE since millions of votes are UNCOUNTED in EVERY election.
- Uncounted votes alone provide overwhelming evidence that elections were stolen in 1968, 1988, 2000 and 2004.
- 1968: 6 million net uncounted votes.
Nixon won the recorded vote by 500,000.
- 1988: 10.6 million net uncounted votes. Bush won the recorded vote by 7m.
- 2000: 5.4 million net uncounted votes. Gore won the recorded vote by 540,000.
- 2004: Nearly 4 million uncounted votes.
Bush won the recorded vote by 3.0 million.
Kerry won the True Vote by 10m.
Approximately 5 million were switched from Kerry to Bush on UNVERIFIABLE voting machines.

- 2006 midterms: Democrats won by more than double the recorded 52-46%% margin.
10-20 House seats were stolen.

- 2008: Obama won by more than double his recorded 9.5m margin.

1988-2008: the average Democratic TRUE VOTE margin was reduced from 10% to a 4% RECORDED MARGIN by Election Fraud.

VOTER FRAUD was virtually non-existent.

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4 replies to this thread:
Cut to the chase: This question will put an end to the exit poll debate... [View all] , TruthIsAll, Fri Nov-18-05 03:11 PM
#1: Naysayers get a shave with Occam's Razor....very nicely put., autorank, Nov 18th 2005
#2: Yes, but one correction: The Final NEP was on CNN at 1:25pm, TruthIsAll, Nov 18th 2005
#3: There's NO way that inebriated frat boy "won" yet "another" election, Tinoire, Nov 19th 2005
#4: Bush won the Final Exit Poll (1:25pm on Nov.3) which was matched to the vote, but..., TruthIsAll, Nov 19th 2005
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